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Saturday, November 07, 2009
Dem Leader Hoyer: We'll have the votes by this evening
Posted by: Townhall.com Staff at 8:27 AM
On MSNBC Saturday morning, Democratic Majority Leader Steny Hoyer stated that he and Pelosi will have the necessary 218 votes to pass their govt-run healthcare bill by early-afternoon/early evening.

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Patrice writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 7:39 PM
The docs shut them down
All of the Repub docs have been speaking and sharing their experience but the dems who are lawyers of course, say no, people need this. Every one of them demonizes the insurers but not the AMBULANCE CHASING SCUMBAGS like their old pal Edwards.
I am so tired of the lies 'my people need this' 'this will save families' 'bankruptcies are caused by medical bills' this is not true - they are out of touch and should really look at how people set their priorities.

Will some tell Rep Sam Farr that this is not South America and women don't die in the streets with babies in their arms - he said this as he accused repubs of scare tactics!!!!!!

To the Dems, quit the smokescreen and just help the unemployed right now - not in 2013. Your deception is clear, tax and spend (steal and paybacks). SHRED THE BILL.
Patrice writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 3:03 PM
Arm breakers
They have the vote of the scam artist just elected from NY23, obama showed up to 'talk' to them and of course the wicked witch of the left was there to threaten them. They only pulled this stunt over the weekend so they would not have to return to their districts to face the voters.
Why not shred this piece of garbage and do some real work like fixing some of the things you have already screwed up before you screw something else up.
Leave our Freedom of Choice alone.
Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 1:33 PM
Neo
Oh yeah. These people just go on as if they are accountable to no one.

If NJ and VA (Barry's watching hoops, yeah right!) doesn't teach 'em. '10 sure will.
NeoConScum writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 1:28 PM
'Gene:Loathsome Nancy & Water Pail Steny
are stepping on their microscopic codsacks every day(Hour..Minute..?)for the whole nation to see. This SHIPWRECK--with unemployment at 10.3% and the Deficit at 3xInherited in January--is gonna be the Assss Whuppin' the Bamster so righteously deserves.

Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 1:17 PM
Neo
Thanks for the chuckle.

It's easy to spout numbers without back up or proof.

I would think if the number were that high some lawyer would come on the tube and say:

"Did you have a loved one die because a hospital, doctor or government social services agengy refused treatment? Then call the number below. The law offices of John Edwards is ready to help."
NeoConScum writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 1:07 PM
'Gene...I'm Snickering at the B'Yotch
slappin' you're handing Auschwitz Axie.

Baa-Daa-Bing. Like Dat.
Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 12:49 PM
Ax
Giving Google a workout?

It's been 15 minutes by my clock. What's taking soooooo loooong?

I would think anyone spouting the 44k figure as a viable reason for a complete govt takeover of our healthcare system would have the answers to the questions I asked right at your fingertips.

And given the personal anomosity between us, I would think you would have those asnswers right away to stick in my face.


But you don't do you? You don't even know where the 44k lie originally came from do you?

You just heard it in your talking points and went running......Thump!!!....right into the doorway with it. And right into the humiliation of being once again on display.... not having a clue what the eff you are talking about.


Getting the doorway reference now?
Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 12:23 PM
Careful w/ you racism Ax
My fascination with doorways? You're the one who keeps running into them. You tell me yours.

And hey, if you are not smart enough to get the reference...hey...not my fault.

As for the 44k claim..See as how you are an expert on this subject you surely don't mind a few questions:

1. Which hospitals,institutions and doctors refused care to these people who died? This is important and I am sure you have a list.

2. What was the average settlement these doctors, hospitals and institutions were forced to pay and who where the lawyeres who represented them? Don't tell me the lawyers here missed this. 44k a year = a lot of settlement cash.

3. Why did these people not have health insurance. Were they umemployable? Did they have the means but just did not purchase it? What was their part in their situation?

4. What area of the country has the most concentration of people dying withouth health care and where did the breakdown in local social services occur? And how did it occur? Here in Nevada, uninsured indigent people can seek care paid for by the state. There is Medicaid etc etc. If someone died, would that not the local agency's be at fault? Who has been held responsible and what were the results.

5. And most importanly, what did YOU do personally, volunteer work, donations etc, to help someone facing death due to lack of health insurance?

Careful with that doorway when you approach. I hope you have ice on hand.

And if you won't answer me or just plain can't.

Thump! You hit the metaphoric doorway again.
cottoneyed writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 12:12 PM
"A tale as old as time"
When a loon makes this comment, the emphases is on "tale" as in tall. Loony, kaboom, and sceptyczny, all tellers of tall tales. You couldn't fill up a thimble with character using all three together. They represent the best the left has to offer, too! It's close, do they have more character, or intelligence? Again neither could fill a thimble, and truth is not found in any of em'.

A few months ago, "loony", said that she was an attorney, but did not know a subtle legal term, which an attorney would know. Proving that she was nothing but a fraud. Kaboom, aka, sceptyczny, has a similar history, having been caught in lie after lie after lie. What is it about leftists that they are so insecure that they must lie about who they are? The lack of character is breathtaking. This lack of character is only surpassed by their self loathing. But of course if one thought and believed as they, self loathing would be expected, wouldn't it.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 12:05 PM
Other not cool Eugene
What's your fascination with doorways? I mean, other than you bringing them up whenever you don't have an intelligent counter argument.

Yeah, I'm sure there's going to a few of these scumwads who are going to demand goodies to do the right thing... something we are stuck with in both parties.

Speaking of Genocide, I guess you're cool with the 44,000 Americans who die every year from a lack of health insurance...
Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 11:38 AM
Hey Lonny
"A tale as old as time."


So is genocide.

Be careful of that low doorway lonny. You keep running into it.

That has got to be painful after a while.
Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 11:34 AM
Lonny
And that's OK with you, as long as it furthers your cause.

Right?
The Plumber writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 11:16 AM
No "Blue-dog" support
No Dem Rep in a Red state who votes for socialism will be re-elected. No amount of money will save them.

Obama cannot save them. Birthday suits have no coattails.
Lonny writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 11:13 AM
Eugene
there are lots of bargaining chips. Hmm, Congressman, do you want that rec center in your district? You do? Well, then you vote for health care bill or you don't get it.

A tale as old as time.

NeoConScum writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:48 AM
Steny...Soooo..Lemme See If I Got This
straight, Dude. The 72-Hr posting of the 2000+page Health Ponzi Scheme will be available for close scrutiny--AS PROMISED BY THE HEADEOUS NANCY--on the Internet?? That would be AFTER you pass it in the House, Steny Baby Bubby?? Or..NOT at all??

Can you say SHIPWRECK, Steny? Can you say 'Playing the voters for FOOLS', Steny?? Can you say 'Elections next year', Steny??
Eugene writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:27 AM
Hoyer
"We'll have the votes by this evening"

Or what?

If Reps haven't made up their minds by now, what's going to change by the end of the day?

If they don't vote the way Hoyer says do they run the risk of waking up tomorrow with a severed horse head in their bed?

Will envelopes of cash suddenly appear?

Come on Hoyer!

What's the offer they can't refuse?
DanNV writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:19 AM
You First
There are many liberal pundits and columnists, not to mention liberal members of congress who are pushing passage of government run healthcare. If this new and improved version of the greatest healthcare system on the planet is so damned good, it behooves its proponents to be among the first to be signed up.

What do you say Pelosi, Hoyer, Schumer, Dodd? And you ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, will you be the first to implement government run healthcare for both your employees as well as yourselves? It's show time kids!
Kenny Z writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:12 AM
Dem Leader
News flash: "We, the people, have the votes right now!" You'll understand in 2010!
AliveInHim writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:07 AM
Wait a sec
Don't the new pols have to be sworn in and initiated first? Or do they just skip those steps if it's a Dem who got elected?

Next November can't come soon enough...my only fear is that even if we conservatives do take back the House those elected won't repeal the whole bill and we'll still have to live with much of it.
moderateGuy writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 9:51 AM
NY-23
Would've had it if Scozzafava got in too; only she did not even lie about it.
Paul writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 9:12 AM
NY-23
Well, I guess they got one more vote from the latest lying scumbag to get voted into office up in NY-23.

"Owens indicated in a press release that he was now in favor of the bill in direct contrast to his earlier position during his campaign.
During his campaign for Congress, Mr. Owens assured voters that he felt the public option had no place in the health care reform bill. Contrary to that position, Mr. Owens now indicates that he intends to vote in favor of the bill even though it now contains a public option."

Gee, what a shocker. Another lib lies through his teeth to get elected and then promptly does a full 180 on his positions. He also lied about voting against medicare cuts and taxing health care benefits, both things now contained in the house bill.


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